{"id":41988,"date":"2018-10-04T11:48:46","date_gmt":"2018-10-04T18:48:46","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/townhallseattle.org\/?p=41988"},"modified":"2018-10-04T11:48:46","modified_gmt":"2018-10-04T18:48:46","slug":"rock-talk-with-a-woman-of-the-world","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/townhallseattle.org\/rock-talk-with-a-woman-of-the-world\/","title":{"rendered":"Rock Talk with a Woman of the World"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cIt was always my belief that rock and roll belonged in the hands of the people, not rock stars,\u201d Patti Smith once said. <\/span><b>Evelyn McDonnell<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> is doing her part to put \u00a0rock and roll in the hands of the people with her new book, <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Women Who Rock: Bessie to Beyonce. Girl Groups to Riot Grrrl<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">. McDonnell, associate professor of journalism at Loyola Marymount University, will be at MoPOP on<\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/townhallseattle.org\/event\/women-who-rock\/\"> <span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Friday, October 12<\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">th<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> to discuss women who have defined musical history.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">But before taking our stage, she took a seat with Town Hall\u2019s Jonathan Shipley to discuss having a crush on Michael Jackson, Rhode Island bands, and her vision of an all-female super group.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>JS:<\/b> <span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">What was your first introduction to rock growing up? What bands\/singers most influenced you as a<\/span> <span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">tot?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>EM:<\/b> <span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">My parents loved music. I grew up in a house with one room centered around the TV and the other, the<\/span> <span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">stereo. I was exposed from a very early age to a variety of genres: jazz, classical, show tunes, and<\/span> <span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">rock. <\/span><b>In another life, my mom would have been a musical actress (instead, she was an award-winning<\/b> <b>high school teacher), so we listened to a lot of cast recordings.<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> I have very early memories of standing on<\/span> <span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">coffee tables and singing and dancing along to \u201cHair\u201d and \u201cJesus Christ Superstar\u201d at cocktail parties. We<\/span> <span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">also listened to the Beatles a lot, and Dylan, and Joan Baez; Mom loved Joan Baez. One of my favorite TV<\/span> <span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">shows was the Jackson 5 cartoon show. Michael Jackson was my first crush, the <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Jackson 5 Greatest Hits<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> my first<\/span> <span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">album. Motown, the sound of young America, indeed!<\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"><br \/>\n<\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"><br \/>\n<\/span><b>JS: <\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">When you reached high school\/college, what bands\/singers influenced you? <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"><br \/>\n<\/span><b>EM:<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> In high school, I remained a Beatlemaniac. I remember distinctly the day John Lennon was killed. My clock radio woke me up with the news; I woke up crying. Bruce Springsteen was one of the first contemporary artists who really spoke to my life as a kid growing up in an industrial small town in the American heartland. Around the same time I discovered Patti Smith. That was transformational. I was in love with Bruce, but <\/span><b>I wanted to be Patti. She was the first artist\u2014a female, a tomboy, a writer\u2014that I could really see myself in. <\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">She opened the door to punk rock, which was the defining musical genre of my coming of age, particularly the Clash, the Jam and the Ramones. I didn\u2019t know at the time about the great female punk bands until the Go-Go\u2019s broke through, and Beauty and the Beat provided sweet vindication for my quirky teenage self.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"><br \/>\n<\/span><b>JS:<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> Did you gravitate towards male-led bands or female-led bands? Did that matter to you? In what ways?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>EM:<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> I listened to anyone. I was what they now call a poptimist, but I just called populism (which is still the name of my blog). But I always paid particular attention to female artists, because as a woman in the world, I knew we needed each other\u2019s support. I also could often relate to what they were singing about in gendered ways. My first paid article was on a new local band called Throwing Muses. That pretty much set the tone for everything to come.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>JS<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">: Have you ever been in a band yourself? If so, what kinds?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>EM:<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> I have been in a couple of one-off bands, \u201coff\u201d being the operative word. Both were in Rhode Island.\u00a0<\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">One was a band of music critics that played a benefit every year; I was a backing singer. It was a pretty\u00a0<\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">generic bar band. The other was with a group of friends for a farewell show for a cross-country road trip\u00a0<\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">two of us were embarking on. We were named the Fiendish Thingees.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>JS: <\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">What was the impetus of this book?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>EM: So many important, genius female artists have emerged in the past decade, but no book has gathered or acknowledged them. We also felt it was important to connect today\u2019s women who rock with the ones who paved the way for them. <\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The last book to try to connect all these threads in a big, multi-voice, illustrated fashion came out in the 1990s\u2014<\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Trouble Girls<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u2014and so much has happened since then. At the time we started putting this book together, we also felt like it was a historic time for women, what with the U.S. about to elect its first female president, and we wanted to acknowledge our female sheroes. Of course, the context for the book quickly changed, and in a sense, it became more important.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>JS: <\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">With the women\u2019s marches, you mean? The #MeToo movement?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>EM: <\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The book was completed before the #MeToo movement became huge, before the Harvey Weinstein articles came out. So in a sense, it was prescient. <\/span><b>But the point is really that assault, harassment, and discrimination have been hurdles for women in the music industry since the beginning, and yet, we\u2019ve persisted.<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> Since Ma Rainey mentored Bessie Smith, women have also been passing each other the torch, which is a lot of what this book is about\u2014sometimes explicitly, as when Alice Bag writes about June Millington, and Peaches salutes Sinead O\u2019Connor. This book was conceived in one political environment and is being published in another one, but because these stories have eternal truths, it remains just as relevant.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>JS: <\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Who would be in your all-female band super group? What would you name the band?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>EM: <\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Wow, that\u2019s hard. Sandy West on drums. Carol Kaye on bass. Poison Ivy and Sister Rosetta Tharpe on guitar. Bjork on vocals. Aretha on vocals and piano. Sheila E on percussion. It\u2019d be a stylistic mess. I\u2019d call them Girl Genius.<\/span><\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p><strong>Don&#8217;t miss Women Who Rock on October 12. <a href=\"https:\/\/townhallseattle.org\/event\/women-who-rock\/\">Get your tickets here<\/a>.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/townhallseattle.org\/event\/women-who-rock\/\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft wp-image-41778 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/townhallseattle.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/08\/event-image-women-who-rock-1.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"600\" height=\"300\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cIt was always my belief that rock and roll belonged in the hands of the people, not rock stars,\u201d Patti Smith once said. <\/span><b>Evelyn McDonnell<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> is doing her part to put \u00a0rock and roll in the hands of the people with her new book, <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Women Who Rock: Bessie to Beyonce. Girl Groups to Riot Grrrl<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">. McDonnell, associate professor of journalism at Loyola Marymount University, will be at MoPOP on<\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/townhallseattle.org\/event\/women-who-rock\/\"> <span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Friday, October 12<\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">th<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> to discuss women who have defined musical history.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">But before taking our stage, she took a seat with Town Hall\u2019s Jonathan Shipley to discuss having a crush on Michael Jackson, Rhode Island bands, and her vision of an all-female super group.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>JS:<\/b> <span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">What was your first introduction to rock growing up? What bands\/singers most influenced you as a<\/span> <span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">tot?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>EM:<\/b> <span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">My parents loved music. I grew up in a house with one room centered around the TV and the other, the<\/span> <span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">stereo. I was exposed from a very early age to a variety of genres: jazz, classical, show tunes, and<\/span> <span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">rock. <\/span><b>In another life, my mom would have been a musical actress (instead, she was an award-winning<\/b> <b>high school teacher), so we listened to a lot of cast recordings.<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> I have very early memories of standing on<\/span> <span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">coffee tables and singing and dancing along to \u201cHair\u201d and \u201cJesus Christ Superstar\u201d at cocktail parties. We<\/span> <span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">also listened to the Beatles a lot, and Dylan, and Joan Baez; Mom loved Joan Baez. One of my favorite TV<\/span> <span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">shows was the Jackson 5 cartoon show. Michael Jackson was my first crush, the <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Jackson 5 Greatest Hits<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> my first<\/span> <span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">album. Motown, the sound of young America, indeed!<\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"><br \/>\n<\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"><br \/>\n<\/span><b>JS: <\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">When you reached high school\/college, what bands\/singers influenced you? <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"><br \/>\n<\/span><b>EM:<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> In high school, I remained a Beatlemaniac. I remember distinctly the day John Lennon was killed. My clock radio woke me up with the news; I woke up crying. Bruce Springsteen was one of the first contemporary artists who really spoke to my life as a kid growing up in an industrial small town in the American heartland. Around the same time I discovered Patti Smith. That was transformational. I was in love with Bruce, but <\/span><b>I wanted to be Patti. She was the first artist\u2014a female, a tomboy, a writer\u2014that I could really see myself in. <\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">She opened the door to punk rock, which was the defining musical genre of my coming of age, particularly the Clash, the Jam and the Ramones. I didn\u2019t know at the time about the great female punk bands until the Go-Go\u2019s broke through, and Beauty and the Beat provided sweet vindication for my quirky teenage self.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"><br \/>\n<\/span><b>JS:<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> Did you gravitate towards male-led bands or female-led bands? Did that matter to you? In what ways?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>EM:<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> I listened to anyone. I was what they now call a poptimist, but I just called populism (which is still the name of my blog). But I always paid particular attention to female artists, because as a woman in the world, I knew we needed each other\u2019s support. I also could often relate to what they were singing about in gendered ways. My first paid article was on a new local band called Throwing Muses. That pretty much set the tone for everything to come.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>JS<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">: Have you ever been in a band yourself? If so, what kinds?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>EM:<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> I have been in a couple of one-off bands, \u201coff\u201d being the operative word. Both were in Rhode Island.\u00a0<\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">One was a band of music critics that played a benefit every year; I was a backing singer. It was a pretty\u00a0<\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">generic bar band. The other was with a group of friends for a farewell show for a cross-country road trip\u00a0<\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">two of us were embarking on. We were named the Fiendish Thingees.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>JS: <\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">What was the impetus of this book?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>EM: So many important, genius female artists have emerged in the past decade, but no book has gathered or acknowledged them. We also felt it was important to connect today\u2019s women who rock with the ones who paved the way for them. <\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The last book to try to connect all these threads in a big, multi-voice, illustrated fashion came out in the 1990s\u2014<\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Trouble Girls<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u2014and so much has happened since then. At the time we started putting this book together, we also felt like it was a historic time for women, what with the U.S. about to elect its first female president, and we wanted to acknowledge our female sheroes. Of course, the context for the book quickly changed, and in a sense, it became more important.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>JS: <\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">With the women\u2019s marches, you mean? The #MeToo movement?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>EM: <\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The book was completed before the #MeToo movement became huge, before the Harvey Weinstein articles came out. So in a sense, it was prescient. <\/span><b>But the point is really that assault, harassment, and discrimination have been hurdles for women in the music industry since the beginning, and yet, we\u2019ve persisted.<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> Since Ma Rainey mentored Bessie Smith, women have also been passing each other the torch, which is a lot of what this book is about\u2014sometimes explicitly, as when Alice Bag writes about June Millington, and Peaches salutes Sinead O\u2019Connor. This book was conceived in one political environment and is being published in another one, but because these stories have eternal truths, it remains just as relevant.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>JS: <\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Who would be in your all-female band super group? What would you name the band?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>EM: <\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Wow, that\u2019s hard. Sandy West on drums. Carol Kaye on bass. Poison Ivy and Sister Rosetta Tharpe on guitar. Bjork on vocals. Aretha on vocals and piano. Sheila E on percussion. It\u2019d be a stylistic mess. I\u2019d call them Girl Genius.<\/span><\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p><strong>Don&#8217;t miss Women Who Rock on October 12. <a href=\"https:\/\/townhallseattle.org\/event\/women-who-rock\/\">Get your tickets here<\/a>.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/townhallseattle.org\/event\/women-who-rock\/\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft wp-image-41778 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/townhallseattle.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/08\/event-image-women-who-rock-1.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"600\" height=\"300\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":41991,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"_et_pb_use_builder":"","_et_pb_old_content":"","_et_gb_content_width":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[17,6],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-41988","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-interview-conversation","category-town-crier"],"acf":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/townhallseattle.org\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/41988","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/townhallseattle.org\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/townhallseattle.org\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/townhallseattle.org\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/townhallseattle.org\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=41988"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/townhallseattle.org\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/41988\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/townhallseattle.org\/wp-json\/"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/townhallseattle.org\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=41988"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/townhallseattle.org\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=41988"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/townhallseattle.org\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=41988"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}