{"id":46383,"date":"2019-10-30T08:58:53","date_gmt":"2019-10-30T15:58:53","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/townhallseattle.org\/?p=46383"},"modified":"2019-10-30T08:58:53","modified_gmt":"2019-10-30T15:58:53","slug":"talking-about-talking-to-your-kids-about-death-a-conversation-with-caroline-wright","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/townhallseattle.org\/talking-about-talking-to-your-kids-about-death-a-conversation-with-caroline-wright\/","title":{"rendered":"Talking about Talking to Your Kids About Death: A Conversation with Caroline Wright"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">How do you talk to kids about death? Author Caroline Wright wondered the same thing when she was diagnosed with an aggressive, terminal brain cancer as a mother to her young sons. Now, having lived a year past her prognosis and written a children\u2019s book to help children know the undying love of a parent, Wright will be at Town Hall on November 9 to help other parents find hope and agency with similar diagnoses. She\u2019ll be joined by a panel of leading experts in the fields of children\u2019s bereavement and cancer to discuss the complicated issue of what to say to our kids to comfort them when facing loss. <a href=\"https:\/\/townhallseattle.org\/event\/caroline-wright\/\"><strong>Tickets ($5, and free for anyone 22 and under) are on sale now<\/strong><\/a>.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Town Hall\u2019s Jonathan Shipley recently sat down with Wright to discuss honesty, science, and comfort.<\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400\"><br \/>\n<\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400\"><br \/>\n<\/span><b>JS: Tell me a bit about yourself.<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400\"><br \/>\n<\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400\"><br \/>\n<\/span><b>CW<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">: I\u2019m <\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">a cook, writer and terminal brain cancer patient. After my undergraduate education in Paris, I completed the La Varenne culinary program with Anne Willan in Burgundy, then started my career writing and styling recipes as a food editor for Martha Stewart\u2019s <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Everyday Food <\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">magazine that folded in 2012. While I was writing articles, I authored three cookbooks. <\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400\"><br \/>\n<\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400\"><br \/>\n<\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">After I was diagnosed with glioblastoma, a very aggressive, incurable brain cancer, I shifted my diet and began writing personal essays regularly about my cancer as it relates to food on my <\/span><a href=\"http:\/\/www.thewrightrecipes.com\/\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">blog<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">. I also wrote a children\u2019s book for my sons about my enduring love for them.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>JS: What emotions swirled through your head upon hearing of your cancer in regards to your children?<\/b><\/p>\n<p><b>CW:<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400\"> I had no idea how to help them process the news because I had no idea how to process it myself. It was a strange experience, to say the least, to be a source of comfort and pain simultaneously for my boys.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>JS: How long did it take you to share with them the news? How did you go about formulating it? What were their initial reactions?<\/b><\/p>\n<p><b>CW:<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400\"> My husband and I told them immediately. (Our engaged child at that point, really, was Henry, as he was four. Our younger son, Theodore, was only one; he was nonverbal at the time and still somewhat a baby.) We told Henry everything we knew, which wasn\u2019t very much, as the situation developed. <\/span><b>Henry was scared, of course, and struggled with the meaning of what was happening; his reactions would emerge randomly, out of context, when little bursts of understanding would break through. This meant that talking about my cancer was always an open dialogue, part of our daily lives.<\/b><\/p>\n<p><b>JS: How have those reactions changed\/evolved as time has passed for them?\u00a0<\/b><\/p>\n<p><b>CW:<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400\"> I don\u2019t know if their reactions have changed, or if they have become more capable of expressing them over the time that\u2019s passed. Henry seems to remain in a similar realm of understanding as when I was diagnosed two years ago; Theodore is a totally different being than before and is growing up in the presence of my cancer as fact. The biggest change I\u2019ve noticed is Theodore\u2019s expression of sadness surrounding things that happened at that time, like mentioning baldness or when his grandparents moved to Seattle. He understood far more than we thought he did at the time.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>JS:<\/b> <b>Did your religious upbringing (if you had one) come into play when discussing death with them?\u00a0<\/b><\/p>\n<p><b>CW:<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400\"> My husband and I aren\u2019t religious. We didn\u2019t offer any sort of odds or hope or narrative of what might happen if I died, or lean on anything but fact. <\/span><b>We just talked about love a lot, about how our connection is permanent regardless of the outcome, which feels spiritual in a way but not specific to a religion<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>JS: Did scientific discussions come into play?\u00a0<\/b><\/p>\n<p><b>CW: <\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Yes, more so than religion\u2014we gave our boys developmentally appropriate answers, backed in what we <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">did <\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">know. We only talked about the present, because that truly was all we knew in that moment (which is still true!)<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>JS: What ARE effective strategies in discussing\/coping with death and grieving with youngsters?<\/b><\/p>\n<p><b>CW:<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400\"> There are many\u2014and the experts on the panel could probably speak to theirs\u2014but for our family it was very simple: be honest and present, saying <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">something <\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">rather than nothing. (Saying nothing is definitely scarier.) Providing outlets for our boys to maintain their schedules and connect with other people was helpful for our family, too. I don\u2019t think there\u2019s a right way to connect about death. And it\u2019s a process, anyway\u2014it\u2019s not one conversation, but many. They change over time. The most important thing, I think, is just being there and being open, which is so hard if you are the one who is sick and is reckoning with death. For me, it was about holding optimism and reality separately, being very careful to know when to mix the two around my sons.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>JS: What can we, as a community, do to help children who are dealing with death\/grieving?<\/b><\/p>\n<p><b>CW:<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Talk about it, out in the open. <\/span><b>Silence from adults is what causes kids to feel alone in grief, when they are capable of understanding so much.<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Also, connecting kids with peers who are experiencing similar circumstances is incredibly helpful in knowing that they aren\u2019t alone. People such as the experts on the panel at my upcoming Town Hall event are from a variety of outlets and are full of resources. Sometimes a peer can connect more fluidly than an adult.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>JS: What do you hope people get out of your coming talk? Your new book?\u00a0<\/b><\/p>\n<p><b>CW:<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400\"> I hope to support families out there that were once like mine, facing uncertainty and pain without the words or understanding of what to do. From personal experience, I know the importance of language as it relates to death, and hope I can make it easier for other parents out there navigating their own trauma. I hope my book brings comfort to families facing the loss of a parent from terminal illness, but also to anyone who reads it a different loving perspective on death regardless of faith or creed.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>JS: What&#8217;s next for you?<\/b><\/p>\n<p><b>CW:<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Honestly, I don\u2019t know! I am choosing these days not too look too far ahead; I try to stay present, knowing what a gift today is. <\/span><b>I\u2019m busy and doing a lot of things I love: writing, mostly; a lot of cooking; being a mom; making things that mean something to me, that tell a story and connect me to others.<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400\"> I\u2019ve come close to the edge, seen behind the curtain, or whatever other preferred metaphor that communicates the limits of mortality, and I can tell you from the bottom of my heart that very little matters from that place. I try to keep that in perspective every day. I\u2019m not on social media at all. Instead, I write a weekly food blog about my life now called The Wright Recipes, which helps give shape to what I\u2019ve experienced in writing it. I also write a monthly newsletter that provides a space for those who want to keep up with how I spend my days, which has proven to strengthen my connections with friends, whether I know them personally or not. I\u2019m grateful and alive and up next I hope is more of the same.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-46384\" src=\"https:\/\/townhallseattle.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/10\/event-image-caroline-wright.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"730\" height=\"365\" \/><br \/>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/townhallseattle.org\/event\/caroline-wright\/\"><strong>Join Caroline Wright and a panel of grief and bereavement experts on Saturday, November 9<\/strong><\/a>.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>How do you talk to kids about death?<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":46385,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"_et_pb_use_builder":"","_et_pb_old_content":"","_et_gb_content_width":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[8,17,6],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-46383","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-feature","category-interview-conversation","category-town-crier"],"acf":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/townhallseattle.org\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/46383","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/townhallseattle.org\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/townhallseattle.org\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/townhallseattle.org\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/townhallseattle.org\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=46383"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/townhallseattle.org\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/46383\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/townhallseattle.org\/wp-json\/"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/townhallseattle.org\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=46383"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/townhallseattle.org\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=46383"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/townhallseattle.org\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=46383"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}